X: Ok. So you think lots. What about her.
Y: Good question indeed.
X: I'm going to ask you what you think about her.
Y: [pause, then] Can it be said?
X: That's sort of the point. How long have you known her for?
Y: Six years.
X: That's a lot of years.
Y: But can one say 'how I feel about her'.
X: Why not though?
Y: [quiet passion] What does it even mean? 'I like her?' I find it dubious to conceive that one can take all the moments they have ever experienced, with that person; and then say, after all the experiences had together; everything which was said, and that which was wanted to be said; - yes, I like her. She's alright. It doesn't quite do it justice.
X: Ok. But what about her specifically.
Y: [in spite of self, and aware of this] --Feels like me.
X: 'She's you'?
Y: Sounds awful, obviously.
X: But you still think it.
Y: Of course.
X: .. What is she like?
Y: [warming] Fascinating.
X: How though?
Y: She's great. -- You meet her and she blows you away. - I'm also the single one who knows her.
X: Oh dear. What about Occam's razor.
Y: Yes. It's probably right in this instance. But I feel it anyway.
X: That's... awfully human of you.
Y: [as before; in spite of self] I can't describe how she makes me feel.
X: 'She'.
Y: Yes I know; I like it too.
X: Your she?
Y: Always. Interestingly too; it's the only she who threatens all that I am.
X: ['realises'] She humanises you?
Y: [thinking] Yes...
X: And that scares you?
Y: [knowing pause; 'furrowed brow'] Hugely.
X: I'd like to meet her.
Y: I would like to see her again.
X: Where is she now?
Y: [almost nostalgic] I don't know.
X: Will she ever come back?
Y: I'm not sure.
X: Will you wait for her if she did?
Y: ...
Y: I find her absence more interesting. What is a plausible explanation. She said pretty explicitly she'd want us 'to have the summer together'.
X: What are the possibilities?
Y: Well there are some; 1) that it's too much for her, so she left it; that she didn't like the vulnerability; 2) that she met an alternative, 3) that she's simply too busy. The first is dubious, the second ridiculous, and the third possible, but silly.
X: 'Expand'?
Y: First: true, but unlikely to cause her silence; I've always made her like that, so there is something else accounting for its specific happening now. Second: has happened before as well; other suitors all whom meant well, though paled in comparison to our magnitude. Third: quite possible. It sounds rather like her. But again, the question unanswered remains; why now.
X: Do you think understanding it makes yourself feel better.
Y: Yes; it allows me some control over a situation I have no control over and is very serious to me. In a manner of speaking; the prattling helps.
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Monday, 4 October 2010
Sunday, 3 October 2010
X: [announcing] I'd like to talk more.
Y: [sitting] What about?
X: I'm not sure yet. Can someone want to talk about something which they're not sure what is?
Y: [rising] Isn't that what the case is usually? Of course.
X: Then where would they start?
Y: Who says they have to start anywhere?
X: Yes. So what is it to start.
Y: I don't think I know.
X: Again? I think that's just giving up; you're meant to be smart.
Y: I never said I was smart...
X: [verifies; acknowledges] Hm. So what is the meaning of a beginning?
Y: All things considered I would suppose that a 'beginning' brings with it a notion of finity.
X: [practically annoyed] As opposed to what?
Y: Very good; but predictable. I mention finity; you question it. I say predictable.
X: Yes, why?
Y: Because a human would say that.
X: [again] 'A human would say that'?
Y: Infinity is a difficult concept. Many have gone mad studying it.
X: I thought you said 'mad' was meaningless.
Y: Technically, though there is a general agreement on something we assume to be verdical. Many people - smart people - who have studied infinity have lost any idea on what that agreed reality is. [faint irony] Really, it is essential for day-to-day functioning.
X: Boring.
Y: [thinking aloud] I know..
X: So back to what is predictable.
Y: [preoccupied] -- Yes, of course. You expressed dissatisfaction with the concept of the finity. Do you have a problem with the concept?
X: I think so.
Y: [confident and teachery] Why.
X: I suppose because finity is a limitation. I don't like a limitation; people should be able to do whatever they want whenever they want.
Y: Ok.
X: Ok?
Y: [thinking aloud] Yes..
X: No shredding analysis?
Y: Not immediately.
X: Why? You need time to think?
Y: No. I thought we established I wasn't of that nature.
X: Then howcome?
Y: Because it would make our dialogue sound false. Thinking about it, to be any good at being taking seriously it should ideally resemble plausible human experience.
X: But howcome?
Y: Otherwise people won't take it seriously.
X: And they should take it seriously?
Y: Yes.
X: Why?
Y: Because it has a lot to teach them. But I've finished my pause now. You said life should be infinite; people should be able to do what they want.
X: Yes.
Y: And my analysis?
X: That was what I asked earlier.
Y: [throwaway] Laughable.
X: [amuse / disbelief] Laughable!
Y: [dead serious] Yes..
X: Because it's predictable?
Y: Well it is yes; but I just generally find it amusing.
X: Why amusing?
Y: Because it's all about what you think. We did discuss earlier; the world is there. It is yours, perhaps, but that's hardly to say you have any control over it. I think people tend to be too opinionated. You forget that the world does not care for your personal preferences. It exists on anyway. Rather than make up your mind about this or that, effort should be invested in trying to figure out how reality is put together; if that be at the expense of this or that incidental preference, then so be it. I would encourage it, actually.
X: Yeah, probably; but that's still an opinion you have.
Y: Yes, but its altruistic, in that its point of focus is the welfare of others, who are always far more interesting and important. As I said; I am no one.
X: So?
Y: Perhaps it is a concept worthy of your consideration.
X: ...but how can you be no one?
Y: [shrug] Why, easily; you just are. There isn't a method; that is quite the point.
X: But what if you're not sure?
Y: Uncertainty is attachment. Anonymity is non-attachment. It is something you do by doing it. It cannot be explained or verified or described. Quite the aphorism; you must work it out for yourself.
Y: [sitting] What about?
X: I'm not sure yet. Can someone want to talk about something which they're not sure what is?
Y: [rising] Isn't that what the case is usually? Of course.
X: Then where would they start?
Y: Who says they have to start anywhere?
X: Yes. So what is it to start.
Y: I don't think I know.
X: Again? I think that's just giving up; you're meant to be smart.
Y: I never said I was smart...
X: [verifies; acknowledges] Hm. So what is the meaning of a beginning?
Y: All things considered I would suppose that a 'beginning' brings with it a notion of finity.
X: [practically annoyed] As opposed to what?
Y: Very good; but predictable. I mention finity; you question it. I say predictable.
X: Yes, why?
Y: Because a human would say that.
X: [again] 'A human would say that'?
Y: Infinity is a difficult concept. Many have gone mad studying it.
X: I thought you said 'mad' was meaningless.
Y: Technically, though there is a general agreement on something we assume to be verdical. Many people - smart people - who have studied infinity have lost any idea on what that agreed reality is. [faint irony] Really, it is essential for day-to-day functioning.
X: Boring.
Y: [thinking aloud] I know..
X: So back to what is predictable.
Y: [preoccupied] -- Yes, of course. You expressed dissatisfaction with the concept of the finity. Do you have a problem with the concept?
X: I think so.
Y: [confident and teachery] Why.
X: I suppose because finity is a limitation. I don't like a limitation; people should be able to do whatever they want whenever they want.
Y: Ok.
X: Ok?
Y: [thinking aloud] Yes..
X: No shredding analysis?
Y: Not immediately.
X: Why? You need time to think?
Y: No. I thought we established I wasn't of that nature.
X: Then howcome?
Y: Because it would make our dialogue sound false. Thinking about it, to be any good at being taking seriously it should ideally resemble plausible human experience.
X: But howcome?
Y: Otherwise people won't take it seriously.
X: And they should take it seriously?
Y: Yes.
X: Why?
Y: Because it has a lot to teach them. But I've finished my pause now. You said life should be infinite; people should be able to do what they want.
X: Yes.
Y: And my analysis?
X: That was what I asked earlier.
Y: [throwaway] Laughable.
X: [amuse / disbelief] Laughable!
Y: [dead serious] Yes..
X: Because it's predictable?
Y: Well it is yes; but I just generally find it amusing.
X: Why amusing?
Y: Because it's all about what you think. We did discuss earlier; the world is there. It is yours, perhaps, but that's hardly to say you have any control over it. I think people tend to be too opinionated. You forget that the world does not care for your personal preferences. It exists on anyway. Rather than make up your mind about this or that, effort should be invested in trying to figure out how reality is put together; if that be at the expense of this or that incidental preference, then so be it. I would encourage it, actually.
X: Yeah, probably; but that's still an opinion you have.
Y: Yes, but its altruistic, in that its point of focus is the welfare of others, who are always far more interesting and important. As I said; I am no one.
X: So?
Y: Perhaps it is a concept worthy of your consideration.
X: ...but how can you be no one?
Y: [shrug] Why, easily; you just are. There isn't a method; that is quite the point.
X: But what if you're not sure?
Y: Uncertainty is attachment. Anonymity is non-attachment. It is something you do by doing it. It cannot be explained or verified or described. Quite the aphorism; you must work it out for yourself.
Labels:
analysis,
anti-philosophy,
dialogue,
ideas,
literature,
metaphysical clap-trap,
people,
zen
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